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Nissan filed a trademark for the name “400Z” in Canada, a successor to the 370Z that's expected to be powered by a 3.0-liter twin-turbo V6 producing 400-horsepower. A reveal should happen in 2020 for a 2021 launch. Nissan will accept pre-orders for 400Z during the summer (typical of Nissan's vehicle launch timeline).

Historically, numbers in the Z's name indicated the engine size (370Z = 3.7-liter engine). This time around, that won't be the case for reasons enthusiasts know very well. Instead it will refer to the the power output. Something we've seen in the Q50 400 that packs the same engine.

While this isn't 100% confirmation from Nissan i'm sure we can connect the dots ;)
 

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I'm very excited by the idea of a Twin-Turbo engine. That'll make it VERY easy to get more power for cheap!
 

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If anyone's reading this post please include and option for a supercharged rather than turbo. the VQ engines even with stock internals are best with natural aspirated with in-front bumper scoop or forced injection like a Vortech or Steve Millen type of supercharger with 8-12 lbs of boost. Either can easily obtain 400 hp with low boost pressure.
 

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If anyone's reading this post please include and option for a supercharged rather than turbo. the VQ engines even with stock internals are best with natural aspirated with in-front bumper scoop or forced injection like a Vortech or Steve Millen type of supercharger with 8-12 lbs of boost. Either can easily obtain 400 hp with low boost pressure.
While certainly possible, it’s more likely the new Z will not have a VQ. Most likely the motor will be the VR which is strictly a TT. I say most likely because that’s what’s the reports are saying. Also, it makes sense from a cost conscious perspective as it allows consolidation to all the vehicles on that FM platform having the same motor.
 

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Definitely think turbo is more likely than supercharged. When's the last time Nissan has offered a factory supercharger, anyway?
 

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Yes but many, many enthusiasts have successfully built VQ motors with superchargers. It's a very proven modification with some owners even going to 18+ lbs of boost with stock internals. My own motor is not FI but takes advantage of passive scoops and air plates which takes advantage of the bumper opening. It would be a shame not to ignore the wealth of knowledge out there with the owners. I can only hope that the factory will listen to us.
 

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Yes but many, many enthusiasts have successfully built VQ motors with superchargers. It's a very proven modification with some owners even going to 18+ lbs of boost with stock internals. My own motor is not FI but takes advantage of passive scoops and air plates which takes advantage of the bumper opening. It would be a shame not to ignore the wealth of knowledge out there with the owners. I can only hope that the factory will listen to us.
Nissan is trying to cut costs. One way they will do it is pair back models. Another way will be to share as many things with remaining models (chassis, engine, etc.) so they don’t have to manufacture any more then needed. That’s a big reason to expect the 3.0TT out off the Infiniti and not a SC VQ. Hope we get some firm details soon.
 

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I agree, I work for Nissan and this vehicle should never be called a 400Z. It should be called a 300Z which we have never had, the previous 300 was a ZX. The Z name in North America has always been about displacement, so unless its a 4.0L motor it should not be called the 400Z.
thats a very true statement as a purist it should be 300Z no doubt. as it always follows displacement. even the special NISMO edition in Japan was labeled a 380RS because of the change for that one off car. The reason 300 wont ever happen is from a pure marketing standpoint. the general audience will see 300 as a down grade from 370 or even 350. sounds stupid but I guarantee you this conversation was had. more is always more in marketing 101. however 400z sort of puts it into a corner unless they are preparing a midlife cycle refresh to be a 420Z or a 450Z NISMO.

to me since the car draws from many generations and will probably be nissans last ever I.C.E powered Z. If you have to drop the displacement moniker would just call it "Z" kind of like the culmination of all the generations.
 

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I agree, I don't like the 400Z name as it does not follow the same schema as the previous models. However from a marketing standpoint, Nissan can't name the car 300Z because to the layman 300<370, and the average person would think the new Z is inferior to the 370Z (this is why Lexus went with the LS500 nameplate even though it is powered by a 3.5L). If Nissan does want to base the nameplate on hp, then they should call it a Nissan Z400, Z300, Z450, etc. depending on power output of the trim levels. They already did this with the Infiniti Q60 Red Sport 400.
 

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Welcome to the forum @Z is for Displacement, @sdot and @Tim818!

I agree, I work for Nissan and this vehicle should never be called a 400Z. It should be called a 300Z which we have never had, the previous 300 was a ZX. The Z name in North America has always been about displacement, so unless its a 4.0L motor it should not be called the 400Z.
I agree, I don't like the 400Z name as it does not follow the same schema as the previous models. However from a marketing standpoint, Nissan can't name the car 300Z because to the layman 300<370, and the average person would think the new Z is inferior to the 370Z (this is why Lexus went with the LS500 nameplate even though it is powered by a 3.5L). If Nissan does want to base the nameplate on hp, then they should call it a Nissan Z400, Z300, Z450, etc. depending on power output of the trim levels. They already did this with the Infiniti Q60 Red Sport 400.
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My honest opinion is they should only call it “Z” instead of 400Z....
I agree that 'Z' should be it for the reasons mentioned. Also that the differentiation between models should only happen on paper, when configuring it, etc. The only time other characters should join 'Z' is when a NISMO version is finally available.
 

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I agree, I don't like the 400Z name as it does not follow the same schema as the previous models. However from a marketing standpoint, Nissan can't name the car 300Z because to the layman 300<370, and the average person would think the new Z is inferior to the 370Z (this is why Lexus went with the LS500 nameplate even though it is powered by a 3.5L). If Nissan does want to base the nameplate on hp, then they should call it a Nissan Z400, Z300, Z450, etc. depending on power output of the trim levels. They already did this with the Infiniti Q60 Red Sport 400.
I agree, I work for Nissan and this vehicle should never be called a 400Z. It should be called a 300Z which we have never had, the previous 300 was a ZX. The Z name in North America has always been about displacement, so unless its a 4.0L motor it should not be called the 400Z.
They should just call it Fairlady Z internationally.
I agree, Z or Fairlady Z should be the way to go since the design is inspired by multiple generations of Z cars. Nissan has pretty much run out of room for the number to represent displacement.
 

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The issue that the Nissan PR people said, is that the vehicle is known as many different names through out the world. Japan it was Fairlady Z, Europe was the Zed, and America it was the ###Z (240z, 300zx, 350z, 370z, etc) So they said keeping the name that the country is familiar with is key to the marketing of the vehicle.
 

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The issue that the Nissan PR people said, is that the vehicle is known as many different names through out the world. Japan it was Fairlady Z, Europe was the Zed, and America it was the ###Z (240z, 300zx, 350z, 370z, etc) So they said keeping the name that the country is familiar with is key to the marketing of the vehicle.
I think the current environment calls for simplification with the only exception being Fairlady Z.
 
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