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Nissan’s vice-president of global product strategy, Ivan Espinosa, hinted that we could be seeing a hybrid version of the 400Z in the future.

He mentioned recently that they are planning on using hybrid powertrains for its sports cars and when he was asked about the 400Z he said "Well, I cannot give you details about the car now.” However, he also said, “What I can tell you is I still see space for two different things."

“Probably in the short term you can still see a bit more conventional technology coming. By conventional I mean maybe still ICE [internal combustion engine] driven, maybe with some electrification on the sports cars,”

This makes sense since hybrid technology seems to be the future of performance cars. Honda is already planning on doing it with the Civic Type-R.

 

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Nissan just shot down the idea of that happening, at least of the short term.

"What I can tell you is I still see space for two different things. Probably, in the short term, you can still see a bit more conventional technology coming. By conventional, I mean an internal combustion engine."

- Ivan Espinosa, Nissan's Vice President of Global Product Strategy, in interview with CarAdvice
 

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Nissan just shot down the idea of that happening, at least of the short term.

"What I can tell you is I still see space for two different things. Probably, in the short term, you can still see a bit more conventional technology coming. By conventional, I mean an internal combustion engine."

- Ivan Espinosa, Nissan's Vice President of Global Product Strategy, in interview with CarAdvice
At least we'll have a few more years of a Z with an ICE engine.
 

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Hybrid was the plan for the Q60. I guess in the future the used car market will your go to for ice vehicles. By 2030 ice sales will be banned in UK as well as going into town centers.

If its going to be Electric it needs p90/p100 model 3 levels of performance. Around 500-700 bhp
 

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More to digest....

"Infiniti has used this engine in tandem with electric equipment derived from Renault's Formula 1 effort in the Q60 Project Black S. That powertrain produced around 420kW, which is roughly the same output as the current base GT-R.
It wouldn’t surprise us if Nissan used the 298kW V6 by itself for the 400Z and added the hybrid gubbins for the GT-R, while turning the wick up some to beat the previous generation’s power output. That leaves room for lesser hybridisation in the Z car at a later date"

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If the GTR is holding back the potential for the Z its a shame. There will be competition. By 2025 Toyota will probably be planning for the next generation Supra which will probably be hybrid petrol and near 500hp

If they can't develop a GTR with Tesla Super coupe level then thats too bad. Anything short of 720 bhp currently in the R50 may be a step sideways.

Also once Electric is it really a GTR or an E GTR
 

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Earlier this year I remember reading an article where Nissan claimed the next GTR we will be the fastest production vehicle again on the road so I’d like to assume they got something up their sleeve. In my opinion they’re pretty much competing with Porsche.
 

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Earlier this year I remember reading an article where Nissan claimed the next GTR we will be the fastest production vehicle again on the road so I’d like to assume they got something up their sleeve. In my opinion they’re pretty much competing with Porsche.
Was this the article @SPOHN?

 

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My two cents:

The new Z will be ICE. If they are using a modified version of the same platform, I can't see them investing in all this new powertrain technology. I can see them developing that tech for a new GT-R though.
And a hybrid system like this would mean the car would most likely have to be AWD... so the GT-R makes sense again.
 

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Lol the GTR is constantly getting embarrassed by the 911 Turbo. Usually struggling against current cars. Yesterday a second gen R35 got beat by the M8.

If the Z development is being hindered and held down by the GTR thats a shame because an AWD Z with an auto box and similar power to the twin turbo Zs in the US would be a better challenge for the 911.

Car Wows UK race is just another drag race where the 911 is no where to be seen.

Instead of a conservative hike with the Nismo why not offer a 500hp AWD similar to the Toyota Supra GRM version thats coming using the VR engine and an extreme version with the GTR engine.

GTR struggling in drag races and poor sales on top

Thats the difference with Nissan and Porsche. They dont hold back models in favour of others. Look at their other VAG products
 

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Lol the GTR is constantly getting embarrassed by the 911 Turbo. Usually struggling against current cars. Yesterday a second gen R35 got beat by the M8.

If the Z development is being hindered and held down by the GTR thats a shame because an AWD Z with an auto box and similar power to the twin turbo Zs in the US would be a better challenge for the 911.

Car Wows UK race is just another drag race where the 911 is no where to be seen.

Instead of a conservative hike with the Nismo why not offer a 500hp AWD similar to the Toyota Supra GRM version thats coming using the VR engine and an extreme version with the GTR engine.

GTR struggling in drag races and poor sales on top

Thats the difference with Nissan and Porsche. They dont hold back models in favour of others. Look at their other VAG products
I think Porsche holds back on the Cayman so it doesn't beat the 911...
 

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I think one of the goals is to best the Porsche 918's Nurgburgring time.
If that is the goal it has to be the GT-R that does it. I'd be shocked if the 400Z was the car Nissan goes with to beat that record.
 

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The GT-R could be the hybrid instead of the 400Z and not only that it could have similar tech to Nissan's Le Mans car.

The Japanese company is considering a performance-oriented hybrid powertrain for the GT-R, but it will be a kinetic energy recovery system. If that sounds familiar, Nissan's Le Mans race car, the GT-R LM Nismo, uses the same technology.

 

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A new article about the GT-R possibly becoming a hybrid.

The 2023 Nissan R36 GT-R may get a hybrid powertrain as part of the automaker's revised model line-up, according to an overseas report.

Nissan's Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta told Automotive News of the plans to renew the company's new-car range, with a particular focus on fully-electric and hybrid engines.

Arguably the most iconic Nissan, the flagship GT-R coupe, could receive kinetic regeneration technology developed for their Le Mans endurance racing cars.

In the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo race car, a kinetic energy recovery system (known as KERS), transferred energy created under braking into a set of flywheels, with the stored energy able to be deployed during acceleration.

Ashwani Gupta was not quoted directly as the source of the news, but the article suggested it had inside knowledge, writing: "Nissan is considering a performance-oriented hybrid that would utilize a kinetic energy recovery system similar to the kind it uses in its Le Mans race cars".

While no details of the R36 GT-R's powertrain have been officially announced, it's likely the Japanese performance car will utilise batteries and an electric motor to increase its power in order to meet strict European environmental new-car standards.


 

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FYI, the Mclaren P1 also has KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) derived from the automakers F1 racer. ;)
 

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A Nissan Z Nismo hybrid is apparently on the table if fans want it, according to a new report from Australian website Motoring.

The Z's chief product specialist, Hiroshi Tamura told them that both hybrid power and a Nismo model are totally possible, as long as fans want them.


Speaking to Australian media after the online global debut of the Nissan Z Proto from Yokohama this morning, Hiroshi Tamura, the Chief Product Specialist for GT-R and NISMO, would not rule out a high-performance variant of the new Z.

“This answer is why not … for me, if customers strongly request for the NISMO grade, why not?” he said. “[Right now] I cannot say yes or no, it’s not clear.”

Tamura-san was more adamant about a hybrid or pure-electric version of the new rear-drive coupe, which Nissan has confirmed will launch with a new twin-turbo V6 matched to six-speed manual and (likely seven-speed) automatic transmissions.

“We considered about for some EV solution for study only,” he said. “What kind of solution do we need to compare performance level, business case, customer voice … then we selected this single solution.

“That’s why today’s answer is twin-turbo, V6, manual. Of course AT [automatic transmission] we must also have so that is today’s conclusion.”

However, as with a NISMO version, Tamura added that electrification will come if customers demand it.

“At the beginning we have to think deeply about many solutions that come from customer voice,” he said. “Then after that if customers strongly request some kind of hybrid system we have to do that.

“Everything must be considered. For e-Power if customers strongly request it to me then why not? It depends on the customer voice.

“We are always thinking about future direction. The final goal is to make a good satisfaction for the customer, so I will follow customer voice. If you get this type of customer maybe the easy answer is you will get it.”

If Tamura can establish a business case for a more expensive performance-leader, it’s possible a new Nissan Z NISMO flagship could be powered by an electrified twin-turbo V6 powertrain, which the Japanese car-maker is already developing.
 
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