StevewithaZ on YouTube posted an interview he did with our very own @DAN_PASSE about the Z. It was a much longer interview than I expected and they cover a lot of ground about the car. Definitely worth the watch.
Nissan Z Interview with Dan Passe
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Someone that left a comment on the video brought up a great point.
"19:23 - Rear Diffs - So on the 370z, the base model "open" diff is pure trash. One tire fire all day long. On the 370z "Sport Package" and Nismo, the "Viscous limited slip" diff is okay, but simply does not lock up enough, even when new, even with fluid changes, to really function much better than the base model. So, rather than spending $2000-$3000 for something like a Wavetrac, then trying to find a shop that can install it and get the shims correct, I would like to see an upgraded diff offered from the factory and I'd happily pay for it too. Usually it doesn't matter, but the main issue I have with the 370z is that due to how the current Diff behaves, it triggers the traction control as well as YAW sensor to intervene way too early and often. Typically this is on slightly uneven pavement transitions in 2nd gear in high lateral dynamic situations. YES, we can "just turn off the traction control" but this does not always fix the issue, and you still end up leaving power on the table in terms of out of corner acceleration."
"19:23 - Rear Diffs - So on the 370z, the base model "open" diff is pure trash. One tire fire all day long. On the 370z "Sport Package" and Nismo, the "Viscous limited slip" diff is okay, but simply does not lock up enough, even when new, even with fluid changes, to really function much better than the base model. So, rather than spending $2000-$3000 for something like a Wavetrac, then trying to find a shop that can install it and get the shims correct, I would like to see an upgraded diff offered from the factory and I'd happily pay for it too. Usually it doesn't matter, but the main issue I have with the 370z is that due to how the current Diff behaves, it triggers the traction control as well as YAW sensor to intervene way too early and often. Typically this is on slightly uneven pavement transitions in 2nd gear in high lateral dynamic situations. YES, we can "just turn off the traction control" but this does not always fix the issue, and you still end up leaving power on the table in terms of out of corner acceleration."
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I loved the video and I appreciate Dans transparency. I’m sure it’s not easy dealing with some of these Z guys and there demands. One thing Im not sure about though is his advice to visit local dealers for information about ordering and pre ordering. I can say that unless it’s just ones local to my area, so far the dealers are largely clueless, haven’t been given or aren’t giving any information about it out. Just today I stopped by my nearest dealer on my way home and the manager keep referring to the car as “400z” and said it won’t be available until atleast 2023 which was either a lie to get me disinterested, he didn’t have anything factual to say or just incompetence, but seeing as he’s still referring to it as a 400z I’m betting on incompetence. I’m very worried that this is going to be a bad experience based on the dealers being so uninformed, tight lipped, stupid or greedy. The Proto spec situation is also very concerning as I fear if there are no form of pre orders, they’ll just ship them over and it will be a giant invitation for these slimy guys to mark it up to the high heavens on the grounds of “rarity”. I wish I could cut dealers out of the process, it’s almost turning me off the car entirely.
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The amount of ads and photos people have taken of dealers calling the Z a 400Z is too high. I hope Nissan takes more control with ordering so we can limit dealing with dealers as much as possible. Let me spec out my car online and be done with it.
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It's pretty embarrassing. I had been biting my tongue (largely because I am not on this planet to create static) but I had to call someone out the other day for still confidently referring to the car as "400Z." It has a name. An official one. It's pretty easy to remember, as luck would have it.
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Hi all. What is the most important thing in terms of ordering, and I brought this up with Dan, is to FLOOD the market with cars. They have to get units on the ground from day 1 if they want this to be a hit. IMHO this is make or break! The more sales they can make out of the gate, the more this will judged a "success". Success breads success. And the win for us is there will be cars to buy without markup. Dealer A can't just sit on 10 units and demand $7,500 over MSRP if dealer B down the street is just firing them out the door. That said, it will also be important for them to allocate based units sold too. This way those that move units can receive additional stock. This may violate the companies dealer agreement, that I am not sure of.
Cars are just inventory and "units" to them.
It'll take some time.
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Welcome to the forum @Urnuts. What are you driving currently?
I think the first thing we'll see towards that is Nissan starting online sales. sort of like what Ford started to do, along with these. Ford Moving toward Build-to-Order, Away from Packed Dealer Lots
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