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Drive has a review up today of the Q60 Red Sport, and it's full of praise for that engine the new Z should be getting. The reviewer piled on the plaudits for its performance and especially its sound as it revs to 7k - very promising. He also had very positive things to say about the car's handling chops.

The Q60 minus all the bad stuff—is real. In fact, it's going to start hitting dealership lots soon. It's the new Z.
 

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There's a few 370Z/VR30RS swaps out there, most without power steering. And being 6MT, they likely still won't be a match for newer automatic German turbo coupes.

My co-worker has a Cadillac CTS VSport, TT V6. He rented a Q60 RS once and said it was very fast. And this is coming from a guy who owns a car that traps 111mph in the 1/4. I believe Q60 RS trap 111-112mph in the 1/4, and they weigh significantly more than the Z. I think a 9AT Z is going to be quite impressive on the 1/4.
 

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The manual may be objectively slower through the 1/4, but subjectively the feel of the pull when in-gear will be just as much fun in the manual, most of that lost acceleration is going to be down to the shift delays and only a marginal amount to the greater rev drops between shifts of the 6 speed.
 

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The manual may be objectively slower through the 1/4, but subjectively the feel of the pull when in-gear will be just as much fun in the manual, most of that lost acceleration is going to be down to the shift delays and only a marginal amount to the greater rev drops between shifts of the 6 speed.
Without devolving into a MT vs AT debate, I'll just say I'm getting the 6MT. But, there's many reasons modern AT are faster. I had a DSG GTI, 6 speeds just like the MT. Obviously, lightning fast gear changes and more importantly, launch control.
The Nissan/Infiniti 7AT is significantly faster than the 6MT, despite being an overall terrible transmission, especially compared to the GTI DSG I had.
Both the Nissan 7AT and the GTI DSG will dust their manual counterparts much more than just simply shift timing.

I have seriously considered the 9AT, depending on how Nissan tunes it, if it comes with launch control, it could end up being very competitive. However, if it's just a port over from the new Pathfinder/Frontier, then blah. My main hold back for the 9AT will be tuning. The current 6MT handles big power with the usual, typical clutch upgrade. The AT is finicky and upgrades are inconsistent in outcome.

I'm ok with either transmission, knowing that the 9AT is likely going to obliterate the 6MT in a drag race, but the 6MT will be necessary if future tuning is planned
 

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When I rented an Infiniti Q50 for a week a couple of years ago, I was impressed by the handling and the twin turbo V6, and my car was merely the 300 HP version rather than the 400 horse mill. The reviewer was right about the stirring sound and smoothness of this engine. The only 6 cylinder engine with a comparable “ripping” sound is the inline 6 turbo in my BMW X3. Most V6’s have a deeper, lower register sound, sometimes droning, including Audi’s turbo V6 engine in the S4 and SQ5 and the engine in the Porsche Macan. I think 6 cylinder engines all sound good, V6 or inline, but the Nissan/InfinitI 3.0TT sounds especially good, in addition to beping very strong.
 

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Another good thing about the VR30 is that both versions put down most of their rated crank hp to the wheels according to most Dyno runs. It's common to see 295whp for the 300VR30 and 385+ for the 400VR30. This used to be something only seen on German cars, nice to see the Nissan VR30 doing it too
 
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