[Ace_SRZ]

So where do we think Nissan will price this? Does car and driver have it right? Base at $45k

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What do we expect for a $45k entry price point. How does that stack up to other options around there. Will Nissan screw up the bang for buck calculation?

 

[St00k]

The current Z starts at $30k. I recall it used to be a lot more expensive but they dropped the price on it a lot a few years back.

the new Supra starts at around $43k but I think that's for the 4-cyl. Nissan is sure to undercut Toyota... but I don't think they can sell a twin-turbo V6 for that low. So I think $45k sounds pretty darn close.

 

[SPOHN]

It’s hard to say. It’s about the features. If it comes in at $45k I expect some serious upgrades. FMI (front mount intercooler), better brakes, way better LSD. If everything is the same as the 370 and it’s only the twin turbos it better be $38K.

 

[supra_1993]

Even if it's $45k I would gladly take that over the 4 banger Zupra.

 

[S30R32]

Probably close estimations based on market offerings, so the $50K is probably spot on, I'm prepared for it as along as the Z delivers, performance wise, again compared to the competition - GR Supra, M4, Cayman, etc.

 

[Ace_SRZ]

Probably close estimations based on market offerings, so the $50K is probably spot on, I'm prepared for it as along as the Z delivers, performance wise, again compared to the competition - GR Supra, M4, Cayman, etc.

$50k is fairly different market segment then then the current Z. Any thoughts on the entry level being a NA engine priced closer to the current model to widen the potential buyer base?

 

[S30R32]

$50k is fairly different market segment then then the current Z. Any thoughts on the entry level being a NA engine priced closer to the current model to widen the potential buyer base?

Unfortunately, that $45K estimated would probably be a turbo 4, nothing NA anymore for fuel efficiency, but I'm guessing of course. Doubt any model will be under $40K nowadays.

 

[SPOHN]

If Nissan even gives us a price tomorrow. I’m very curious to the amount of verbal detail they’re going to give us.

 

[kbl911]

Interesting - this would suggest that Nissan intends to now make the entry-level Z more expensive than the entry-level Infinity Q60. Bold strategy.

Granted, the 400hp variant of the Q60 is significantly more expensive (given that this is the tune we expect in the Z) but that is largely because it adopts all of the features of the highest trim offering and then arbitrarily tacks on over $10,000 for, seemingly, the higher state of tune (yes, I am aware that there are differences between the 300hp and 400hp tunes but, as I understand, it's the same engine with better cooling and a fancy turbo speed sensor) and to establish its position as the apex in the model range.

This is all to say that, while I definitely expect the new Z to see a substantial price increase, placing it in the mid $40K range seems difficult to justify since it isn't really using any new tech, or even a bespoke platform, from what we know. I agree with Ace_SRZ - this car is suddenly for a somewhat different buyer at that price point.

 

[S30R32]

Interesting - this would suggest that Nissan intends to now make the entry-level Z more expensive than the entry-level Infinity Q60. Bold strategy.

Granted, the 400hp variant of the Q60 is significantly more expensive (given that this is the tune we expect in the Z) but that is largely because it adopts all of the features of the highest trim offering and then arbitrarily tacks on over $10,000 for, seemingly, the higher state of tune (yes, I am aware that there are differences between the 300hp and 400hp tunes but, as I understand, it's the same engine with better cooling and a fancy turbo speed sensor) and to establish its position as the apex in the model range.

This is all to say that, while I definitely expect the new Z to see a substantial price increase, placing it in the mid $40K range seems difficult to justify since it isn't really using any new tech, or even a bespoke platform, from what we know. I agree with Ace_SRZ - this car is suddenly for a somewhat different buyer at that price point.

As long as it doesn't encroach on base C8 and Cayman territory, over $50K definitely hits another market segment for Z owners. But as long as the package delivers, being a Nissan/Datsun fan, I'm still hopeful. We shall see by tomorrow evening's unveil, if enough details given.

 

[Ze plane Ze plane]

The wait is really killing me. As long as I can take it home under the mid 40's (out the door), I'll be an early adopter.

 

[Ace_SRZ]

I actually expect a lot from Nissan for this delivery. My R33 GT-R is around 300hp in stock form and a great twin turbo, manual transmission, drivers car. And they built it 25 years ago!!! If they can't deliver a great sports car with 400+ hp on a remake of an existing platform and an existing engine for a cutting edge price clearly their business department needs a reorg. They are not R&Ding a car from the ground up, they are playing Legos, which as we can see from the 90's Nissan is very good at, but they can't expect new R&D prices (Supra). This is a retooling+ and therefore a $20k price hike better deliver an exceptional and refined vehicle.

 

[SPOHN]

^ Great point. Either way I’m in so I Hope for the best