[yanks1]

agree, its not a drag strip vehicle... enjoy the twisty roads and highway ramp like most Z's do from what folks tell me

 

[stevewithaz]

It has to equal or beat the MK5 0-60 times or....

 

[kbl911]

Yeah, no doubt this will be a quick car but I don't think that many of us were under the mistaken impression that it was going to be world-beating. This was never going to be a 3-second 0-60 vehicle (though I do think it could break into the 3s with the Auto).

 

[Rusty]

It has to equal or beat the MK5 0-60 times or....

If the Z's 0-60 time is slower than the Supra are you not going to get one? For me the price, design and manual alone make the Z more appealing than the MK V.

 

[stevewithaz]

If the Z's 0-60 time is slower than the Supra are you not going to get one? For me the price, design and manual alone make the Z more appealing than the MK V.

I didn't say that. It would be a disappointment that's for sure. Especially when we all know it's a tune and pound of boost away....as it will be close.

 

[Rusty]

I didn't say that. It would be a disappointment that's for sure. Especially when we all know it's a tune and pound of boost away....as it will be close.

It's going to make for some interesting content once people starting getting their hands on them and start racing Supras.

 

[MCN1SMO]

Yeah, no doubt this will be a quick car but I don't think that many of us were under the mistaken impression that it was going to be world-beating. This was never going to be a 3-second 0-60 vehicle (though I do think it could break into the 3s with the Auto).

yeah I think the auto could be a 3.9 car with maybe a 12.4-12.5 1/4 mile if the launch control is useful and the car hooks up. Nissan said it was 15% quicker acceleration than the 370z. but they didnt say what time they were comparing and auto or manual

I got a little 1/8 mile 10 mins from my house. As soon as I get the car will go up there and try to grind out some good 0-60s with the draggy


with all that said even though im a numbers guy for sure I fully acknowledge the Z isnt a numbers car and will enjoy it as so..

 

[MARLEY]

Here's the other thing, If you are a numbers guy then you should be more concerned about mod-ability than stock numbers. With the Supra, you're currently stuck at stock numbers. With the Z you're just a tune away from 50+HP / 100+TQ

 

[MCN1SMO]

Here's the other thing, If you are a numbers guy then you should be more concerned about mod-ability than stock numbers. With the Supra, you're currently stuck at stock numbers. With the Z you're just a tune away from 50+HP / 100+TQ

when I say im a numbers guy I mean it like min/maxing what the factory car can do as in grinding out the best possible numbers stock. for years in the GTR world I would try to get the absolute best acceleration numbers with no mods and try to match or out do all the magazine tests as a hobby. I love seeing the builds but personally have no interest in a modded Z unless its from NISMO

 

[kbl911]

Here's the other thing, If you are a numbers guy then you should be more concerned about mod-ability than stock numbers. With the Supra, you're currently stuck at stock numbers. With the Z you're just a tune away from 50+HP / 100+TQ

Perhaps. But, as MCN1SMO points out, modding isn't necessarily the goal for all buyers. I, personally, have zero interest in voiding the warranty on my new vehicle so it isn't something I'd be doing. Plus, I think we can agree that comparing factory-spec vehicles to modified ones is kind of an inherently silly exercise.

 

[MARLEY]

Perhaps. But, as MCN1SMO points out, modding isn't necessarily the goal for all buyers. I, personally, have zero interest in voiding the warranty on my new vehicle so it isn't something I'd be doing. Plus, I think we can agree that comparing factory-spec vehicles to modified ones is kind of an inherently silly exercise.

I do agree, but my point is that you can't even tune the supra if you wanted to.

 

[MARLEY]

when I say im a numbers guy I mean it like min/maxing what the factory car can do as in grinding out the best possible numbers stock. for years in the GTR world I would try to get the absolute best acceleration numbers with no mods and try to match or out do all the magazine tests as a hobby. I love seeing the builds but personally have no interest in a modded Z unless its from NISMO

I got you. My comment was more directed to the person who said they would be disappointed if the Z's times were slower than the Supra.

 

[S30R32]

I don't really focus on 0-60 times, those are just stats, but keeping a close eye on track times and upcoming test comparisons.

 

[MCN1SMO]

I got you. My comment was more directed to the person who said they would be disappointed if the Z's times were slower than the Supra.

oh I think I would be a little disappointed too if it were more than like a tenth or so off auto vs auto. I know the manual will be a few ticks slower but I still hope the auto can match the supra 1 for 1. got to wait for curb weight I guess

 

[Lunchbox20]

This is correct. I just had dinner with Tamura-san last night, and we discussed the vast differences between the Z and GT-R. His ideology between the two vehicles is that the Z provides balance and accuracy. The GT-R is, a "Mobile Suit", that allows the driver to be able to chase numbers, and focuses on harnessing and being able to utilize the power to reach optimum performance.
I could literally sit and talk with him for hours, on his passion of performance in automobiles.

Also, with his retirement on the horizon, this may very well be the last Z, as Nissan isn't financially in a position to continue on with low volume cars, as well as they want to push to EV and hybrid tech, but not yet, applicable according to Tamura-san due to poor battery development, and that the technology isn't where it needs to be for him to incorporate it into a sports car that is a reasonable budget.

 

[MCN1SMO]

This is correct. I just had dinner with Tamura-san last night, and we discussed the vast differences between the Z and GT-R. His ideology between the two vehicles is that the Z provides balance and accuracy. The GT-R is, a "Mobile Suit", that allows the driver to be able to chase numbers, and focuses on harnessing and being able to utilize the power to reach optimum performance.

thats a perfect analogy because when I talked to Shiro Nakamara about the GTR design he was showing me parts of the car that he designed from Gundam inspiration

 

[S30R32]

Also, with his retirement on the horizon, this may very well be the last Z, as Nissan isn't financially in a position to continue on with low volume cars, as well as they want to push to EV and hybrid tech, but not yet, applicable according to Tamura-san due to poor battery development, and that the technology isn't where it needs to be for him to incorporate it into a sports car that is a reasonable budget.

This is a good approach, let battery tech mature a bit from Nissan's side before applying it to their marquee sports cars. It has to be excellent before any production and arrive at a reasonable budget. I'm certainly interested in a hybrid Z when the right time comes.

 

[THaskins]

This is correct. I just had dinner with Tamura-san last night, and we discussed the vast differences between the Z and GT-R. His ideology between the two vehicles is that the Z provides balance and accuracy. The GT-R is, a "Mobile Suit", that allows the driver to be able to chase numbers, and focuses on harnessing and being able to utilize the power to reach optimum performance.
I could literally sit and talk with him for hours, on his passion of performance in automobiles.

Also, with his retirement on the horizon, this may very well be the last Z, as Nissan isn't financially in a position to continue on with low volume cars, as well as they want to push to EV and hybrid tech, but not yet, applicable according to Tamura-san due to poor battery development, and that the technology isn't where it needs to be for him to incorporate it into a sports car that is a reasonable budget.

When you spoke with him was there anything new you can shared with us that we didn't get from the Z's debut?

 

[Lunchbox20]

When you spoke with him was there anything new you can shared with us that we didn't get from the Z's debut?

Sadly nothing related to the Z. I asked about the Nismo version, and was meet with an "up in the air" answer. He would like to see one for sure, though by adding vast significant changes, would of course increase the price of the vehicle. Adding GT-R brakes, tune up the power, look at adding carbon fiber pieces, etc, would put the Nismo version of the new Z likely in the high 60K to even 70k range, which is a vast concern.

The other side of that, is with his retirement on the horizon, and if he decides to retire, the current mindset at Nissan isn't focused on performance. For those that don't know, Tamura, kind of forced Nissan to create this last Z. The GT-R still has no future plans as of now even aside from some "heritage" colors that may or may not appear on the R35

I would love a Nismo version, but if Tamura is gone, and there is no REAL development, then it'll likely end up as a premium package by Nissan resulting in a body kit, wheels, with some slightly different interior trim and Nismo badges everywhere. Having a car similar to the 350Z Nismo, which had a seem welded chassis, and functional aerodynamics, likely won't happen without Tamura.