The real Performance numbers?

The Nismo numbers would be nice, but I'm not sure we'll see that much of a power increase. The "base" numbers look like they could be accurate though from what we already know. Going to be exciting to see final production numbers though.

I don't think there's any way we get 500-hp... even out of a NISMO model. A man can dream though.

Agree with the general consensus, here: the standard figures seem entirely plausible/likely but the NISMO stats may be slightly aspirational. Who's to say, though.

I'm not believing that 500 number also, too much of a bump, but 425-450 more likely. Sure won't hurt to dream....hah!

Typical internet clickbait journamalism, not based on facts, just whatever whim blew up the authors ass.

500 HP? That's what mods are for.

youra6 said:

500 HP? That's what mods are for.

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Yep this is my initial goal, tune to around 450whp, let's see how doable that will be with no major component upgrades. Trying to put good competition to my buddy's ZL1 at local tracks here. My 260whp RB is not cutting it, 4-5 secs off.

S30R32 said:

Yep this is my initial goal, tune to around 450whp, let's see how doable that will be with no major component upgrades. Trying to put good competition to my buddy's ZL1 at local tracks here. My 260whp RB is not cutting it, 4-5 secs off.

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I probably will have the urge to mod it right away but the other part of my brain is telling me to wait when tuners actually have more experience with it.

youra6 said:

I probably will have the urge to mod it right away but the other part of my brain is telling me to wait when tuners actually have more experience with it.

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I'm sure tuners will have decent experience from the start since this is an existing platform, but I wonder how long it will take to unlock the ECU.

The blueprint is already there with the Q60 Red Sport. I'd expect to see all of the major players have upgrades ready for sale shortly after the new Z drops, depending on who can get theirs into the shop first.

Enjuku in Clermont is not wasting any time and have already updated their website:
https://www.enjukuracing.com/categories/nissan/nissan-400z/

Heavy Dupree said:

The blueprint is already there with the Q60 Red Sport. I'd expect to see all of the major players have upgrades ready for sale shortly after the new Z drops, depending on who can get theirs into the shop first.

Enjuku in Clermont is not wasting any time and have already updated their website:
https://www.enjukuracing.com/categories/nissan/nissan-400z/

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Pretty much what I was thinking. AMS, Z1, and a few other big names will be ready to start working as soon as this car hits the streets.

If this thing is 400bhp and it weighs 1550kg kerb (full fuel) I really can't see me have any urge to mod soon, or ever.
At most I'll do a turbo back exhaust, at most.

Agreed... wheels and tires, a valved exhaust that flows a bit better but sounds just right, a little bit of suspension optimization... slight cosmetic personalization... just a little bit to do the things that federalization and mass-market manufacturing can't fine tune or customize.

I am sure there will be big builds... but this might not require much, and doing too much might actually upset the balance.

The EPA is on the hunt against tuners.

I think we may have an issue with acquiring tunes for this car.

S30R32 said:

Another wish list? Soon as somebody finds out the real numbers, post 'em.

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While it’s fun to speculate, it’s just speculation and we won’t know the real numbers, particularly for the Nismo, until they come out. I doubt we’ll see anywhere close to 500 hp because it makes no sense for Nissan to provide a car nearly equaling a GT-R for less than half the cost. Further, to keep the engine reliable, a 3.0 TT can’t be allowed to produce that kind of hp because it might be over-stressed and I’d bet Nissan wants to retain its reputation for a power and reliable V6 that still leaves some meat on the bone for tuners.

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Their numbers with just an ECU tune, no other mods: "Average performance gains seen on a non-Sport Q60 are 100hp and over 100lb-ft. On a Redsport Q60 average performance gains are 50hp and over 75lb-ft."

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Decent numbers for just an ECU tune, that will be my first step after baseline times at the track. For sure baseline will include track pads, high temp brake fluid, and depending on the factory tires may put on 100 treadwear which I'm familiar with, R-S4 or R888.

Nismo numbers match what you see on a typical FBO Q50/60 (remember that you are looking at crank HP, not wheel). I do wonder if they are going to come out with a better heat exchanger or if its going to be the crappy one they gave us on the Q.