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I’m with you on that one! I’ve dealt with this person before. Not real impressed. Doesn’t seem knowledgeable or very interested unless you are coming to the dealership.
 

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The dealership doesn’t know shit. It’s really that simple. If they can’t sell you a car when your there they just don’t care. Anytime anyone says “ the dealer said “ it’s time to take a drink. Beer anyone?
 

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yeah and for some perspective I made a living for over a decade having "scoops" . ive worked with many different nissan dealers since 2008 and ive personally been responsible for millions of dollars in GTR sales and had relationships with dealers all over the US through NAGTROC/GTRLIFE. the truth is nissan dealers never know more than the enthusiast community ever and if they do it gets out immediately .

salesman know nothing. going up the ladder the sales manager or dealer principle only know something when their DOM dealer operations manager ( thats the Nissan rep for their part of the region) tells them something. they only communicate things at the time nissan wants it out.

occasionally the sales managers or owner will get invited out to a workshop /training event about the upcoming line up for that model year but that is really just familiarizing them with the cars and what nissan wants communicated to the customer. more than any "top secret" info.

Right before a car like this is launched its always an information vacuum and thats where the speculation comes from. its always the lack of info and dealers instead of telling the customer they simply dont know anything yet they always add a little hearsay here and there to keep the dialogue up.

now with that said once the information is released to dealers they are actually a good source as you can get documents from them like internal order guides or even their invoice and dealer cost. so they are a great resource once information that has been communicated to them but dealers just usually never know any inside info before nissans want it to be known. I used to get order guides or internal communications all the time. but in 14-15 years I never got a tip or a real bit of inside info from a dealer before nissan had officially launched the car. with social media being what it is now once anything is officially sent to a dealer it will be on forums or facebook right away


for example the dealer im getting my Z from im a long time friend of the owner. I text him every couple weeks and say anything new with the Z? he checks with his DOM and...nothing. the second he gets real information i know him well enough to know im the first person he is calling. but right now its radio silence from nissan. hopefully we get a new update at NY auto show in 10 days.
 

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Didn’t someone from Nissan say they’d be “very disappointed” if the Z rolled out any later than spring? Seems like this person doesn’t keep up as much as us enthusiasts

yeah Dan did a interview with a guy who works at Nissan dealer who also seems to be a real enthusiast as well. he posted it on facebook. obviously Dan couldnt deviate from the company line but hinted their intentions were not to let it miss the initial launch window if possible. thats how I interpreted it at least
 

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yeah and for some perspective I made a living for over a decade having "scoops" . ive worked with many different nissan dealers since 2008 and ive personally been responsible for millions of dollars in GTR sales and had relationships with dealers all over the US through NAGTROC/GTRLIFE. the truth is nissan dealers never know more than the enthusiast community ever and if they do it gets out immediately .

salesman know nothing. going up the ladder the sales manager or dealer principle only know something when their DOM dealer operations manager ( thats the Nissan rep for their part of the region) tells them something. they only communicate things at the time nissan wants it out.

occasionally the sales managers or owner will get invited out to a workshop /training event about the upcoming line up for that model year but that is really just familiarizing them with the cars and what nissan wants communicated to the customer. more than any "top secret" info.

Right before a car like this is launched its always an information vacuum and thats where the speculation comes from. its always the lack of info and dealers instead of telling the customer they simply dont know anything yet they always add a little hearsay here and there to keep the dialogue up.

now with that said once the information is released to dealers they are actually a good source as you can get documents from them like internal order guides or even their invoice and dealer cost. so they are a great resource once information that has been communicated to them but dealers just usually never know any inside info before nissans want it to be known. I used to get order guides or internal communications all the time. but in 14-15 years I never got a tip or a real bit of inside info from a dealer before nissan had officially launched the car. with social media being what it is now once anything is officially sent to a dealer it will be on forums or facebook right away


for example the dealer im getting my Z from im a long time friend of the owner. I text him every couple weeks and say anything new with the Z? he checks with his DOM and...nothing. the second he gets real information i know him well enough to know im the first person he is calling. but right now its radio silence from nissan. hopefully we get a new update at NY auto show in 10 days.
 

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Thanks for the information. That makes more sense than the dealership taking the time to send me BS speculation. I’ve bought 2 vehicles from these people and was generally pleased with them. Confidence has been lowered in this case. Fortunately, there are several Nissan dealerships in my area. I’ll be looking to them for better information going forward.
 

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Thanks for the information. That makes more sense than the dealership taking the time to send me BS speculation. I’ve bought 2 vehicles from these people and was generally pleased with them. Confidence has been lowered in this case. Fortunately, there are several Nissan dealerships in my area. I’ll be looking to them for better information going forward.
If you can find out what their initial Z allocations are like that would be great.
 
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