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Toyota Supra With a Manual Transmission Confirmed for US

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According to The Drive, the Toyota Supra will get a manual transmission in the US as early as this year.


Years ago, before Toyota launched production of the GR Supra, it admitted that it had engineered and knew how to build a manual version—it just wasn't sure selling one would offer a return on its investment. Since then, rumors have emerged from Japan alleging that Toyota has at last given the three-pedal Supra the green light, and that it could bring it to market in 2022. I'll admit, I still didn't fully buy it; not until I heard from a source inside Toyota's dealer network that the manual Supra is "confirmed," and could debut this year.

This information came from the same source that helped corroborate rumors about the upcoming GR Corolla hot hatchback. Such a model was allegedly shown at a product preview event for dealers in Las Vegas late last year, alongside a prototype manual Supra. The Drive reached out to Toyota regarding these claims, though the automaker declined to comment.

Because we're getting this information secondhand, the manual Supra's confirmation was the only detail our source could share about the car—they expect, but couldn't guarantee it'll arrive this year. This development does, however, give us confidence in a recent report echoing the same, which alleged that the manual was originally planned to be exclusive to the 2.0-liter model before someone at Toyota (rightly) insisted it be available on the six-cylinder car.

We can probably expect the manual to debut as an option on the 2023 model, which may also bring forth a higher-performing GRMN trim with the 3.0-liter S58 inline-six from the BMW M3. Assuming it matches the M3's power output, that'd give it 503 horsepower and 479 pound-feet of torque; almost a third more than the upgraded 2021-onward model makes. Officially, anyway, as dyno tests suggest Toyota (slash BMW) slightly underrates its factory power output.

A report from mid-2020 indicated the GRMN would use a seven-speed automatic only, though as Toyota has at last seemingly relented on denying us a manual, maybe there's some hope of finding one in the highest-performing A90 Supra too. And even if there's none to be found, the kind of power people are making out of the lesser B58 makes that less of a loss.
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They had to release it with a manual eventually right? Imagine the flame they would have got when the Z launches. Manual doesn't really mean much to me, but it is still far more engaging than an auto for obvious reasons.

As far as the GRMN, I HIGHLY doubt that BMW gives it the S58, and this is mainly because of the M division. Nothing wrong with the B58, especially considering the power it can make. I can see them releasing a more powerful version of it.
They had to release it with a manual eventually right? Imagine the flame they would have got when the Z launches. Manual doesn't really mean much to me, but it is still far more engaging than an auto for obvious reasons.

As far as the GRMN, I HIGHLY doubt that BMW gives it the S58, and this is mainly because of the M division. Nothing wrong with the B58, especially considering the power it can make. I can see them releasing a more powerful version of it.
It's a chess game and a well played one. Now I wonder what's next for the A90.
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Feels like Nissan left them with no choice. Toyota had to do it to try to keep pace with the new Z.
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According to The Drive, the Toyota Supra will get a manual transmission in the US as early as this year.


Years ago, before Toyota launched production of the GR Supra, it admitted that it had engineered and knew how to build a manual version—it just wasn't sure selling one would offer a return on its investment. Since then, rumors have emerged from Japan alleging that Toyota has at last given the three-pedal Supra the green light, and that it could bring it to market in 2022. I'll admit, I still didn't fully buy it; not until I heard from a source inside Toyota's dealer network that the manual Supra is "confirmed," and could debut this year.

This information came from the same source that helped corroborate rumors about the upcoming GR Corolla hot hatchback. Such a model was allegedly shown at a product preview event for dealers in Las Vegas late last year, alongside a prototype manual Supra. The Drive reached out to Toyota regarding these claims, though the automaker declined to comment.

Because we're getting this information secondhand, the manual Supra's confirmation was the only detail our source could share about the car—they expect, but couldn't guarantee it'll arrive this year. This development does, however, give us confidence in a recent report echoing the same, which alleged that the manual was originally planned to be exclusive to the 2.0-liter model before someone at Toyota (rightly) insisted it be available on the six-cylinder car.

We can probably expect the manual to debut as an option on the 2023 model, which may also bring forth a higher-performing GRMN trim with the 3.0-liter S58 inline-six from the BMW M3. Assuming it matches the M3's power output, that'd give it 503 horsepower and 479 pound-feet of torque; almost a third more than the upgraded 2021-onward model makes. Officially, anyway, as dyno tests suggest Toyota (slash BMW) slightly underrates its factory power output.

A report from mid-2020 indicated the GRMN would use a seven-speed automatic only, though as Toyota has at last seemingly relented on denying us a manual, maybe there's some hope of finding one in the highest-performing A90 Supra too. And even if there's none to be found, the kind of power people are making out of the lesser B58 makes that less of a loss.
The stick won’t fix the ugly, nor will it fix its being a BMW. The “Supra” getting a stick is not just in response to the Z offering a stick. It’s also because sales aren’t great. Credit that to the car’s fugly appearance and BMW internals where customers wanted a good looking car and Toyota reliability but got neither. Toyota has a V6TT hybrid making 437 hp and over 500 ft-lbs of torque (409 hp w/o the electric motor). Though not a straight six, that engine would be vastly more desirable in a TOYOTA Supra derived from a rear drive Lexus platform (with an outsourced manual transmission) provided they redesigned the body to something more palatable. Then again, I don’t want to help Toyota outdo the Z as the Z is already the real deal (just needs the Fairlady front fascia for relative perfection).
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