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I dont think I've ever seen even a hint from nissan as to pricing , but everyone and their mothers seem to be almost 100% this car will start at $40k.

Just how accurate is this and what is the source? Its hard ti imagine its pure speculation because even the most reliable journalists and car enthusiasts are going with the $40k like its a done deal
 

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I dont think I've ever seen even a hint from nissan as to pricing , but everyone and their mothers seem to be almost 100% this car will start at $40k.

Just how accurate is this and what is the source? Its hard ti imagine its pure speculation because even the most reliable journalists and car enthusiasts are going with the $40k like its a done deal
@DAN_PASSE, Nissan's director of product communications, confirmed the Z's price on Twitter back in August.
 

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I dont think I've ever seen even a hint from nissan as to pricing , but everyone and their mothers seem to be almost 100% this car will start at $40k.

Just how accurate is this and what is the source? Its hard ti imagine its pure speculation because even the most reliable journalists and car enthusiasts are going with the $40k like its a done deal
On the day of the Z's reveal Ashwani Gupta did an interview where he said it to Yahoo Finance.

 

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but with all that said how many people will actually be going with the Sport? realistically the Z most will buy is the performance which im guessing is 48-50K

so the 40K Z tag line is technically true but I think real world the performance trim will be the vast majority just because the sport feels a bit incomplete
 

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but with all that said how many people will actually be going with the Sport? realistically the Z most will buy is the performance which im guessing is 48-50K

so the 40K Z tag line is technically true but I think real world the performance trim will be the vast majority just because the sport feels a bit incomplete
Going along that same train of thought. How many dealers are going to carry base Z's in their showroom? Very little I imagine, especially if there actually won't be pre-orders.
 

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Agreed im guessing 70-80% of 2023 Zs will be performance if the dealers have control of what is ordered and dont just get sent random Zs
 

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Agreed im guessing 70-80% of 2023 Zs will be performance if the dealers have control of what is ordered and dont just get sent random Zs
Guess I'll be waiting for the model range to expand. I wonder how many will take that approach. It seems the massive gap in the lineup has clearly been communicated to Nissan (Dan Passe said as much) so it's not as though people haven't noticed.
 

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Did the 2004 Nissan Z have LSD? Im curious what the fuss about it is. Tbh I want performance trim just for the spoiler 🤣
 

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Did the 2004 Nissan Z have LSD? Im curious what the fuss about it is. Tbh I want performance trim just for the spoiler 🤣

the Base model didnt but the next level up the Enthusiast did and there were 5 trim level total. The prior modern Zs had trim levels that sort of stepped up options as it went. the base didnt even have VDC or cruise control for example back then. some of the only negative feedback on new 2023 Z is its basically a Sport( base) or loaded car no in between. but the other way to look at it is the sport( the new "base" Z) has a ton of modern tech and amenities like infotainment screens ect that previous "base" Zs didnt. so not exactly apples to apples comparison of previous gens

the over simplified fuss about the LSD is most people probably dont want to pay $40K to do one wheel burn outs in a modern sports car living in the year 2022. the more nuanced fuss is proper power distribution in an agile RWD sports car is thought by most to be a bare minimum more so than digital dashes or insert your other feature here ect
 

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I think Nissan kinda lost their way in the Z world after the Z32. Shoulda, woulda, coulda done a mid-engined car...

The Z32 Base Model was "mono-spec" out of the box which means there were minimal options - all asthetic as opposed to performance. The car was world class in design and performance at the lowest trim level.

The only major trim level as an option was the TT, which had its own exclusive features.

Both cars were refined year by year (normal seat belts instead of the door mounted train wreck in the first year, air bags, cloth type) but they still kept it at two trim levels. They brought out the 2+2 Base but that was a low seller.

I'm glad to see Nissan going back to that, save for the ill-advised decision to forego the LSD on the Base version. LSD and suspension work together to provide stability and predictable handling in spirited driving, track, and emergency protocols.

I'll betch'ya you'll see it in the second year as a standard feature.
 

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but with all that said how many people will actually be going with the Sport? realistically the Z most will buy is the performance which im guessing is 48-50K

so the 40K Z tag line is technically true but I think real world the performance trim will be the vast majority just because the sport feels a bit incomplete
It can't, well shouldn't be that high. Supra 3.0 starts at $51k. That's with a ZF auto, a BMW engine, a BMW quality interior, and overall fit/finish. It will likely also be faster, and possibly handle better. And starting 3.0, not premium, is a step up from Nissan yes. Also it's up against other HP/$ cars, and even the Golf R for performance, which yes different, will be cross shopped for those wanting performance.

Facts are it is an old chassis, an established motor, R&D costs to recoup should be low. Nissan NEEDs a hit, and this could be it if priced right. $38k+dest for base, $45k+dest tops for performance. And God help them if the manual is a paid option.
 

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oh I think it will be because the performance adds a ton of stuff its not just one trim level step up. its loaded. 19" wheels LSD brakes exhaust different seats bigger NAV screen all that is going to add up fast then especially for those getting the 9AT I would imagine thats another $1500 or something like that then destination charge is what $1600? I cant see how you wouldnt be knocking on the door of 50K rather easily

my reasoning is if the performance was just 5K more and its like 45K out the door vs 40K why even do a Sport in the first place? Who would that be for at that small of a difference in price. I think the 40K sport is Nissans idea of giving you value as a priority. these are just my thoughts just looking at what the equipment difference is. As for the Supra Nissan is still achieving their goal of undercutting the 3.0 at the near 50K price point just as they are undercutting the 2.0 with the Sport
 

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Well remember that it's not like they pay the price for base wheels and then the cost of those RAY'S. Same with diff, seats, screen, etc. I too was worried about them hitting $50k, but I don't think they'll have that full R&D overhead, and how part prices will be mitigated at the factory. If the Z is $1-2k less than Supra, good luck.

It's not about price, it's also perception, and that BMW fit/finish/new chassis would be worth that price diff easily.

Nothing against you, but I hope you're wrong and I'm right in this case lol.
 

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If the Z is $1-2k less than Supra, good luck.
That's been my fear from jump - getting too close to the 3.0 Supra price. I have to imagine that $51k starting price point for the only Supra that many are looking for is part of the reason that the Supra hasn't exactly set the world ablaze in terms of sales volume.

Then again, perhaps not, but I'd hate to see it limit Z sales, which is much more plausible since the Z is seen as - and consciously positions itself as - something of an "affordable sports car."
 

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Coupes in general aren't exactly sales beasts. With the US market haven't gone all-in on crossovers with automatic transmissions, coupes and anything with a manual transmission are going the way of the dodo.

I expect some initial demand for the Z, but don't expect to see many on the roads. Not because it's a bad car, but solely because it's not a crossover.
 

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That's been my fear from jump - getting too close to the 3.0 Supra price. I have to imagine that $51k starting price point for the only Supra that many are looking for is part of the reason that the Supra hasn't exactly set the world ablaze in terms of sales volume.

Then again, perhaps not, but I'd hate to see it limit Z sales, which is much more plausible since the Z is seen as - and consciously positions itself as - something of an "affordable sports car."
I'm sure it has a bit to do with price, it's around "traditional" American go to for sports cars, Mustang, Corvette. It also lacks a manual which really hurts it with enthusiasts. It's not a Toyota. And it's looks are divisive.

That being said, Toyota is selling a rebranded BMW sportscar, built in euroland, and imported here for $51k if you look at it that way. Nissan can't get greedy here. This isn't a GTR, it's a Z, an affordable sportscar. Outside of the hardcore Z loyalist, I doubt it will do well if it's near that $50k mark.
 
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